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The use of Pop-Art icons in New Zealand

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by Atom1746 29 Jul 2010

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After producing a couple of recent paintings I thankfully got a little publicity, but was interested to find that the manager of a particular New Zealand celebrity was quite unhappy with the use of the image.

 

Pop art is all about taking popular themes from modern culture and turning it into an art form of some type. One dictionary definition of Pop art is:

 

"(Fine Arts & Visual Arts / Art Movements) a movement in modern art that imitates the methods, styles, and themes of popular culture and mass media, such as comic strips, advertising, and science fiction"

 

Andy Warhol is a perfect example of this, using icons such as Campbell's soup cans, Elvis Presley and Marilyn Munroe (to name but a few) as subjects for his paintings. A few more examples (a little more closer to home) would works of art including kiwi icons such as Edmonds baking powder, the Four Square guy and even The Phantom. Pop art is a major passion of mine and one day while chilling out with a Red Bull, I started to think about themes of New Zealand popular culture and of course the first thing that came to my mind was RUGBY.

Of course! Why has no one in New Zealand ever produced art relating to rugby? (any that I was aware of anyway) After all, it's a part of who we are, it's our history, our present and our future passion - love it or hate it, exposure to rugby is a part of living in New Zealand. It is the perfect theme for New Zealand pop art and I planned to use it.

 

After producing portraits of two of our greatest current players I have received both good and bad reviews. Firstly, it is important to point out my initial intention (mentioned above), secondly - ask any Kiwi who they think are the most recognisable faces of current New Zealand rugby, and they will likely mention either Dan Carter or Ritchie McCaw. The use of their image is ethical and purely due to their international recognition as icons of New Zealand rugby, and icons of New Zealand popular culture. Their use in art is also a tribute to the great game of Rugby and recognition of it's place in Kiwi Culture, which we as New Zealanders are so passionate about. On an different tangent, celebrities choose to be part of the public domain, and use of their image is completley legal.

 

People who try to stop the use of pop culture symbols are in danger of stifling the progression of Kiwi art and even freedom of expression, weather they do so intentionally or not.

 

*End of rant*

 

I'm interested to know your opinions guys!
 

Edit: Links deleted due to un-constructive criticism (not naming anyone BENJAMIN) bear in mind that it was the media writing that article and they often take quotes out of context! I'm actually generally interested in your opinions and any similar experiences.

 

Thanks Dudes

 

www.atom1746.co.nz

 

 

 

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Madgie
29 Jul 2010 7:35 pm
42 comments since 2 Jul 2010
If this is pop art then so is advertising, its not really difficult just popular. The problem I have with this sort of art is that it isn't sustainable anymore, this idea would make even the public yawn so hardly pop art at all, no fuel for the development of future art. A manufactured manifestation at least requires from anything it operates to conform to a set of laws and principles.


 
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benjamin
29 Jul 2010 9:59 pm
178 comments since 30 Nov 2007
'Tomlinson said he had no ambitions to become rich or famous like a rugby player.

``In fact I love the anonymity – something that Dan Carter, Richie McCaw and co must miss at times.'

i don't think that you want to know what i think



 
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Susan Hawkins
29 Jul 2010 10:10 pm
3 articles & 11 comments since 13 Oct 2008
I say what is there to ask.. go make a heap of money


 
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b'art Homme
30 Jul 2010 8:01 am
6 articles & 181 comments since 22 May 2010
Show us the pictures and name the names then we can have a go mate


 
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Madgie
30 Jul 2010 8:15 am
42 comments since 2 Jul 2010
Susan will never get any customers if she sells herself like that


 
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MR
30 Jul 2010 11:53 am
218 comments since 20 Jul 2007

you should have just politely told the said manager to go play with himself.



 
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Madgie
30 Jul 2010 2:25 pm
42 comments since 2 Jul 2010


 
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Quint Baker
30 Jul 2010 8:43 pm
15 articles & 340 comments since 20 Jul 2009
these scoundrels are always SO negative :P I think you have raised an interesting issue. Using images OF our world is how an artist tells his story. The artist sees the world and then shows what he sees. How can an artist do that if he is barred from using the imagery of the world. "Copyright" is a complex issue designed to stop criminals from stealing other peoples creations and making money for selfishly themselves. But it shouldn't stop fluid creativity. I love when others use my creative material for anything. It is exciting and fun, even when this is done without permission. But it would be nice to think that fellow creatives would be kind enough to "pay" the appropriate amount should any money be made with some of my input. A fair share. If not, well then who cares, that is something they will have to live with. If copyright stops creativity then it has become misguided. Copyright should serve as a structure to assist artists in their claim.


 
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mr tourette
30 Jul 2010 9:26 pm
7 articles & 273 comments since 29 Jan 2009

picture of dear old Jonathon with Anton Olivers reverse; anybody care to identify the painter?



 
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mr tourette
30 Jul 2010 9:27 pm
7 articles & 273 comments since 29 Jan 2009

twiss



 
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mr tourette
30 Jul 2010 9:28 pm
7 articles & 273 comments since 29 Jan 2009
..its so old fashioned to have some local / historical knowledge, it could be considered arrogant in some circles.


 
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Madgie
31 Jul 2010 10:14 am
42 comments since 2 Jul 2010

Imitation without intuitive motive can be perceived as a craft if the evidential copywrite cannot be explained well verbally or in literary terms. Therefore most artwork is dependent on familiarity with local / historical knowledge to become recognized or understood by some circles.



 
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MR
31 Jul 2010 11:04 am
218 comments since 20 Jul 2007
you crack me up Madgie, I love the way you write in short bursts like a prize fighter :)


 
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Madgie
31 Jul 2010 11:16 am
42 comments since 2 Jul 2010

Thankyou MR, I do work really hard :)



 
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MR
31 Jul 2010 11:32 am
218 comments since 20 Jul 2007
Are you secretly Anton Oliver Madgie ;) there is a striking resemblance.


 
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benjamin
31 Jul 2010 11:42 am
178 comments since 30 Nov 2007

 itchy nose? rugby surrealism...

 



 
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benjamin
31 Jul 2010 11:43 am
178 comments since 30 Nov 2007

 and rugby monumentalism



 
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Madgie
31 Jul 2010 11:54 am
42 comments since 2 Jul 2010
Yeah I am MR, but since retiring from the rugby union the resemblance isn't quite so striking anymore. Who is that rugby painting by Benjamin?


 
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mr tourette
31 Jul 2010 12:06 pm
7 articles & 273 comments since 29 Jan 2009
good question madge;I think the images here need to be attributed not to break copyright rules to do with fair use for criticism.


 
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benjamin
31 Jul 2010 12:31 pm
178 comments since 30 Nov 2007
madgie - martins de barros


 

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